'They were like, "They’ll get over it"'

Fatima Payman on Labor, the ceasefire and the election

Last week I sat down with Senator Fatima Payman for a half-hour chat over Microsoft Teams, the worst software in the world.

I first got in touch with Payman’s office in November after seeing how she responded to Jason Clare’s round of media appearances in which he suddenly started talking about a ceasefire.

Originally I wanted to ask some general questions about Labor, the genocide and the upcoming federal election. By coincidence, though, the interview ended up happening on January 16, a few hours after the ceasefire was announced.

“Look, it’s definitely heartening, definitely welcome. But the fact that it’s only for six weeks, it’s … y’know,” Payman said. “We’re not going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good, but it’s just insufficient when it comes to addressing the scale of the genocide that we’ve been seeing, frankly. Why [did the ceasefire start on] Sunday? Why not sooner? Why only six weeks instead of being permanent? Hasn’t there been enough bloodshed? Hasn’t there been enough heartache and devastation and destruction?”

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